Host Pierre de Gaillande interviews musicians, composers, and producers, and Pierre Pressures them into talking about politics. Each guest performs a song that has political or social resonance, and discusses their artistic trajectory, the intersection of music and politics, and the pressure of life in these Divided States. Listen on iTunes. Listen on Overcast. Listen on Stitcher. Go to Facebook Page.

PPP # 23: PANDEMIC #2  

Part 2 of Pierre's Pandemic Podcast features two guests from Episode 22 and some new guests discussing life during the coronavirus lockdown. Pierre checks in on the phone with two people who had Covid 19 and recovered, a doctor and a nurse practitioner working with patients in New York City,  two musicians, a public defender, and someone living in Carriacou, a remote island in the Carribean. Don't miss this episode filled with tales of resilience, ordinary madness, quiet heroism, frustration and laughter in the face of unprecedented strangeness.

1: Spider, nurse practitioner in Brooklyn, NY 
2: Daria, musician in Beacon, New York
3: Sid, public defender in Brooklyn, NY
4: Genevieve, education administrator in Brooklyn, NY 
5: Izzy, musician in Bushwick, NY 
6: Wendy, retired in Carriacou, Grenada
7: Jonathan, cardiologist in New York, NY

Merchandise, written by Fugazi, performed by Pierre de Gaillande. HIV by Ween. Pettin' in the Park by Daria Grace and the Prewar Ponies. Valley Winter Song by Fountains of Wayne. Still Ill by The Smiths. Biological Speculation by Parliament. Time to Get Ill by Beastie Boys. Come Sail Away by Styx. Four Senses on Alert by Pierre de Gaillande. Close to You by Karen Carpenter.




A very unusual Pierre Pressure Podcast. In this episode, Pierre called his friends in New York, California, and Florida to see how they are getting by during this world-wide quarantine. These guests range in age, gender, profession, and location, from musicians to prisoner advocates to BnB owners to school lunch administrators, they have all been deeply affected by the corona virus. I asked them all to tell me what music is getting them by during this historic catastrophe, and I made a playlist on Spotify with their suggestions (see link below.)  Shortly after this taping, the first guest, "Spider" contracted the Covid 19 virus and is in good condition at home. All other guests are coping with this unusual time in their own ways. There will be further call-in shows as this quarantine goes on.

PIERRE PRESSURE PANDEMIC PLAYLIST is available for streaming on Spotify:

1: Spider in Brooklyn, NY
2: Jack Grace in upstate New York
3: Kevin in Polk County, Florida
4: Gretchen in Flatbush, Brooklyn, NY
5: Scheffer in San Francisco, CA
6: Izzy Rock in Bushwick, NY
7: Basquali in Hudson, NY
8: Kelsey in Brooklyn, NY
9: Zoe in San Franciso, CA

Song: Corona by Minutemen, Four Senses on Alert by Pierre de Gaillande, Night Fever by BeeGees, I Die: You Die by Gary Numan, Pandemic songs by Jack Grace, I'm Clean Now by Grouper, Gold Sounds by Pavement, I'm Still Standing by Elton John, Pressure by Billy Joel, Dance Yrself Clean by LCD Soundsystem,  We Will Never Exist by Sitar Metal, It's the End of the World As We Know It by REM, My Corona by Zdoggmb, My Struggles by Missy Elliott.


Chris Wells is the founder of The Secret City, and he is a high priest of art. He's been known to tower over people in platform shoes, he leads a congregation of art worshippers, his performances make people feel high, and he was raised in the high desert of California. In this episode we discuss what it means to create transcendental, communal gatherings outside the umbrella of "church."  We talk about the somatic response of fight, flight, or freeze, trying to heal the wounds of empire, gay politicians wearing "straight-face," people who let their dogs lick their face, and the performance of being a Reagan-loving, church-going young man. We also discuss Chris' journey into being a radical fairy, dissect the so-called Irish potato famine, queers in the woods, gay liberation not assimilation, and his ongoing mission to bring art-based, ecstatic spectacle to a divided world. A lot of ground is covered!

Episode sponsor: Cats Who Can Type. Opening music: Marchandise by Bad Reputation (French cover of Merchandise by Fugazi). Pixxlatd Cock by Pierre de Gaillande. Songs: Famine by Sinead O'Connor, Hold Me Baby by Christie and the NoNos, Compared to What by Les McCann and Eddie Harris. End music: All One by The Snow.




Composer-producer-frontman-wizard JG Thirlwell has been making astonishing, orchestral, bombastic music for decades. Born in Australia, he teamed up with Nick Cave and the Birthday Party, then joined Prag VEC, and soon formed his enduring solo project Foetus. Operating under plethora of pseudonyms and monikers meant to confuse, shock, and awe, Thirlwell continues to churn out an astounding amount of music and to perform as a frontman for his own projects, as well as a composer for animated series Venture Brothers, Archer, and Dicktown. We talked about his beginnings in London, moving to New York in the early 80s, starting out using 16 tracks of tape and an elaborate numerical system, his first time wearing "guy liner," the importance of remembering World War Two, his evolving theories on shock value and fear as a part of performance, and his changing relationship to his Australian roots as a citizen of the world.

Episode sponsor: Crazy Eddie's. Opening music: Marchandise by Fugazi, performed by Pierre de Gaillande with James Fletcher, drums. Songs: Courtyard Dogs, Moths, and Witchmarket from The Blue Eyes Soundtrack by JG Thirlwell. Your Lazy Lay Lay by Prag VEC. Is That a Line, What Have You Been Doing, Water Torture, and Danger Global Warming by Foetus. Fun House by Birthday Party. Delights of the Garden by Last Poets. Oilfields and I'll Meet You in Poland Baby, orchestral live performances by JG Thirlwell. Motorslug by Wiseblood. L'espion Qui a Pleuré by Steroid Maximus. A Plastic Island in the Pacific by Manorexia. Spag from Venture Brothers Soundtrack by JG Thirlwell.



Musician and visual artist Rick Froberg can't help it, he f*&#ing loves rock and roll. Throughout his career he has fronted loud, uncompromising, agressive, totally original and influential bands like Pitchfork, Drive Like Jehu, and Hot Snakes with his partner in crime John Reis as well as Obits, last of the Juanitas, and others. He continues to record and perform all over the world. Rick creates the album artwork for all of his projects, as well as working as a commercial artist. We talked about getting along with Satan, shitty gigs in front of the culchies, being at the same Fugazi show when someone drew blood, saying what you mean with lead and bludgeoning guitars, the wonders of the internet, cigarette Nazis in Australia, learning analog art design, and a whole lot more.

Episode sponsor: Ultra Lubricants. Opening music: Marchandise by Fugazi, performed by Pierre de Gaillande with James Fletcher, drums. Songs: Burn Pigs Burn by Pitchfork. Ant Farm by Night Soil Man. Luau, Super Unison, New Math by Drive Like Jehu. No hands, Death Camp Fantasy, Six Wave Hold Down by Hot Snakes. Military Madness, Two Headed Coin by Obits. 



For this very special episode, we reach way back into the vault and present an interview Pierre did with The Breeders in 1992! We unearthed this cassette recording of an interview with all four members of this massively popular and influential mainstay of 90's alt-rock, the Breeders. Pierre called them from San Diego and interviewed them on the phone in their hometown of Dayton, Ohio, in advance of their concert in Tijuana, Mexico, at the legendary Iguana's. The year is 1992 and the Breeders are on the verge of superstardom. Pierre is a college student calling from San Diego and he's quite sleepy, but he's awake enough to ask some pretty incisive and trenchant questions, including "Who will play you in a movie of your life" and "Will Bill Clinton be elected?" Listen as young Pierre tries to play it cool on the phone with all four members of the Breeders; Jim McPherson, Josephine Wiggs, Kelly Deal, and Kim Deal.

Episode sponsor: Pierre Delecto. Opening music: "Merchandise" written by Fugazi, performed by Pierre de Gaillande with James Fletcher, drums. "Hey" by Pixies, translated into French and performed by Pierre de Gaillande, form the album "franglais". Songs: "Fortunately Gone," "Cannonball," and "When I was a Painter" by the Breeders.


Phil Manley is a west-coast based rock musician and producer. He runs El Studio in San Fransisco, and he handles the guitar, keyboards, bass, and vocals in bands Trans Am, Life Coach, Terry Gross, and Oneida among others. His band Trans Am spearheaded the Electroclash movement in the 90's and continues to melt faces around the world. We had very pleasant chit chat in his studio about recording very loud bands, Krautrock vs. punk rock, missing the "normal days" of Bush, touring in Europe with a Bush mask on, and how to sheild your kids from the apocalypse.

Episode sponsor: Mother Earth. Opening music: Marchandise by Fugazi, performed by Pierre de Gaillande with James Fletcher, drums. Songs: Orlando, 4738 Regrets, Bagged Agenda, Night Dancing, Cocaine Computer, Alles Verboten, Climbing Up the Ladder, Thing, Washington, DC, and Uninvited Guest by Trans Am. Earthen Sculptor and Abide by the Fucking Champs. Fireball by Life Coach. Shameless Impostor by Terry Gross. Outro music: Nickels and Dimes by Golden.



Episode sweet sixteen features Los Angeles-based activists, musicians, filmmakers, and educators Lisa Marr and Paolo Davanzo. They run a non-profit called the Echo Park Film Center, and they travel the world spreading their vison of inclusiveness, tolerance, creativity and artistic freedom through the medium of cinema. We spoke about both of their musical and artistic trajectories beginning in Canada and Italy, through the wilds of the Orange County punk MIASMA and the Canadian riot girl scene. We chatted about striving for socialist idealism in a capitalist world, the circus of American politics, the short life of the Sassy Pickles, the film mobile, bicycle-driven projection, cuddle core, and so much more.

Episode sponsor: Somebody climbing a mountain. Opening music: "Marchandise" written by Fugazi, performed by Pierre de Gaillande with James Fletcher, drums. Songs: "Oh Happy Day" and "Maneaters" by the Evaporators. "Motel Six" and "New York City" by Cub. ""Hardstance" by Hardstance. "Los Angeles," "Slaughterhouse Ceiling," and "Monday Morning Echo Park" by the Lisa Marr Experiment. "Making Friends the Hollywood Way"  by The Natural Lights. "I Am Always Touched by Your Presence" by The Beards. "In California" by Lisa Marr, performed by Neko Case. "Sure Gonna Miss Him" and "American Express" by Buck. "Shuckin' Sugar" by Lisa Marr and Soda. "Rat Race City" and "Unemployment Line" performed live by Lisa Marr and Paolo Davanzo. "Hé," "Un de Ces Jours," "Aime Toi," "Maitres de Guerre," "Baiser en l'Air," and "Fasciae" by Pierre de Gaillande/Bad Reputation from the album franglais.


PPP #15: STEW  

Stew is a singer, musician, composer, playwright, and a powerhouse in the world of music and theater. For years he fronted the band Stew and the Negro Problem. He then went on to create and star in a play called Passing Strange which started off-Broadway and then went on to have a successful run on Broadway, where it garnered multiple Tonys and other awards, and was eventually turned into a feature film by Spike Lee. In all of Stew's work, he shines a bright light on what it means to be an African-American guy with a killer sense of humor and an acute sense of history and culture, in a world that wants to reduce everyone to stereotypes. Stew performed a live acoustic rendition of his song "Baldwin Country" and we spoke about "asshole-adjacent people," the role of comedy in music, the American vs European idea of freedom, what Reagan would say about today's mess, his ongoing collaboration with partner Heidi Rodewald, the audacity of craziness, and so much more. 

Episode sponsor: Splendidcorp.com. Opening music: "Marchandise" written by Fugazi, performed by Pierre de Gaillande with James Fletcher, drums. Songs: "Baldwin Country" performed live by Stew, guitar and vocals. ""Merci Beaucoup M. Godard" from the Passing Strange Broadway soundtrack. "Man in a Dress" by Stew, "Black Men Ski," "Klown Wit Da Nuclear Code" and "Why do Black People Still Believe in God" by Stew and the Negro Problem. End credit music: "Hé" by Pixies, performed by Pierre de Gaillande, from the forthcoming album "franglais" by Bad Reputation.



This episode features woodwind whiz, composer, arranger, and performer Ken Thomson. Ken plays all kinds of clarinets and saxophones (and anything else that sounds like an angry swan) in many amazing projects including but not limited to: Bang on a Can Orchestra, Gutbucket, Asphalt Orchestra, SlowFast, and Ken Thomson Sextet. I've had the pleasure of sharing stages and recording sessions over the years with Ken and he always amazes. We chit-chatted about his career as a hornist, perceptions of Americans  touring abroad, adapting feedback and screaming for marching band, making couscous with your bandmates, and so much more.

Episode sponsor: Kapitalizum. Opening music: "Merchandise" written by Fugazi, performed by Pierre de Gaillande with James Fletcher, drums. Songs: "Fuck You and Your Hipster Tie," "Dry Humping the American Dream," and "More More Bigger Better Faster With Cheese" by Gutbucket. "Where is My Mind," "Something Against You," and "Tony's Theme" by Asphalt Orchestra. "Lewis" by Creedle. "Wanderangst" by Slow/Fast. "The Forest Awakes" by David Byrne and St. Vincent. "Icebreaker" by Ken Thomson Sextet. "Gene Takes a Drink" by Bang on a Can Orchestra. "The Velocity of Love" by World Inferno Friendship Society. "NRA-hole" by Open Kimono. "In the Clear Water of the Fountain" by Bad Reputation.



Lucky number 13 is my good friend Dorit Chrysler, a theremin wizard from Austria. She came to New York in the 90's and was the singer-guitarist for the scorching art-rock band Halcion. She subsequently went on tho become one of the world's premiere theremin experts. She performs at festivals and concert venues around the world on a regular basis, and she was the co-founder of the New York Theremin Society. She has scored films and TV sows, including the upcoming German production "M." for Netflix. She will be performing this year with the San Francisco Symphony as well as Moogfest in Durham North Carolina in April. We spoke about the music scene in New York in the 90's,plasticc molds, the legacy of Austrian culture, the "bread and circus" of American politics, and she performed three live songs in the studio.

Sponsor: Exotic Molds. Opening music: "Merchandise" by Fugazi, performed by Pierre de Gaillande with James Fletcher, drums. Songs: "Rubies and Pearls" and "A Happy Place"  written and performed by Dorit Chrysler on live theremin. "Aquarium" by Saint Saens, Dorit Chrysler on live theremin. "Messy Marvin" by Halcion. "I Don't Want to Set the World on Fire"  by Bennie Benjamin, Eddie Durham, Sol Marcus and Eddie Seiler, performed by Pierre de Gaillande (guitar) and Dorit Chrysler (theremin, vocals.) "Arizona Man" and "Eine Huette in den Baumen" by Dorit Chrysler from her album Schlager on Parade. "Spring Breeze" by Dorit Chrysler. "Top of the Food Chain" by Open Kimono, theremin by Dorit Chrysler.


PPP #12: C. GIBBS  

This episode's guest is my good friend and musical collaborator Christian Gibbs. Also known as C. Gibbs, he's a ridiculously talented singer, songwriter, guitarist who's been crushing it for decades. His numerous band and solo projects include Morning Glories, C. Gibbs Review, Lucinda Black Bear, He Arrived by Helicopter, and others. He had a stint on the Broadway show Passing Strange and continues to record, tour, and perform. We talked about squatting in London, shitty gigs in Germany, getting a murse from Spike Lee, talking to your conservative parents abut politics, getting your pod stuck on stage, competing with a youthful package, and a whole lot more. 

Sponsor: Somebody Climbing a Mountain. Opening music: "Merchandise" by Fugazi, performed by Pierre de Gaillande with James Fletcher, drums. Songs: "CT Backroads" (live acoustic.) "Fully Loaded" and "Tattoo Ruins" by Morning Glories. "Slowly Creeping Smile," "Cash," "Cut My Spirit Dry," "Drag the Ashes," "Moon Son" and "Here I Am" by C. Gibbs. "Cold Damn Truth" by He Arrived by Helicopter. "Big Tree Big House," "Fake Trees," "Born Then Dead" and "Fully Loaded" acoustic versions by C. Gibbs and Pierre de Gaillande. 



This episode is all about hip hop. Paul Womack, AKA Willie Green, is a New York-based hip hop producer specializing in "art-rap." He produces extremely imaginative, groundbreaking beats for hip hop and pop artists who are not afraid to break the rules and sound completely different. Operating out of his studio in Brooklyn, he works with a roster of super creative and outspoken artists like Quelle Chris, Premrock, Billy Woods, Henry Canyon, EllaMaeFlossy and many others under the label Backwoodz Studioz. We talked about good versus shitty sampling, the difference between studied and naive creativity, drumming with Uncle Dave, the hypocrisy of self-hating immigrants, armchair A&R, and a lot more. 

Sponsor: Static Electricity. Opening music: "Merchandise" by Fugazi, performed by Pierre de Gaillande with James Fletcher, drums. Songs: "Resurrection Day (Instrumental)" from Doc Savage (Instrumental Version,) "No VIP ft. Corina Corina & iLLspokinn" from We Live in the Future, "Fasho Fasho! ft. PremRock" from We Live in the Future, "Jesus Loves Me" by Premrock, "Stingray" by Junclassic, "The Feathered Octopus ft. ELUCID & Open Mike Eagle" from Doc Savage, "Rent Control" by Super Chron Flight Brothers, "Everything's Fine Intro" by Jean Grae & Quelle Chris, "The Man of Bronze ft. Henry Canyons, Googie & Amy Leigh Richards" from Doc Savage, "Ebony Stoned" by EllaMaeFlossie, "The Wake" by Billy Woods. 



This episode's guest, Timo Ellis, is an all around musical powerhouse. He plays drums, guitar, bass, keyboards, and sings, and currently fronts the synth-metal band Netherlands. His musical bio spans an impressive and varied list of projects including Yoko Ono, Cibo Matto, Sean Lennon, Joan as Policewoman, and many more.

We talked about the "sinister, earth-killing, imperialist, genocidal juggernaut" that is our current political system, made plans for a two-person revolution, and scrapped those plans because we're all addicted to the internet. It's a wild ride. Check it out, it even features some unreleased tracks you won't hear anywhere else.

Sponsor: Russia. Opening music: "Merchandise" by Fugazi, performed by Pierre de Gaillande with James Fletcher, drums. Songs: "Breakin' the Law"  by Judas Priest, and "Paranoid" by Black Sabbath, all instruments by Timo Ellis. "I just Want My Space" by The Carbs. "Warzone" and "How Do You Feel" (unreleased demos) by Yoko Ono. "Beauty Funk" (unreleased demo) by Sean Lennon and Timo Ellis. "Sunday" (live performance) by Cibo Matto. "Keeper of the Flame" (live performance) by Joan as Policewoman. "It's the Rage" by Butter 08. "Negative Likes" by Netherlands. "Winterfell" by Biker Period. "Serf's Up," "Bracchios R' Us," and "No Revenge" by Timo Ellis.



Guest Dawn Landes is talented multi-instrumentalist, singer-songwriter, and producer living in Nashville. We talk about climbing trees with Will Oldham, her touring with Sufjan Stevens, recording with Nashville A-listers, and why bow-hunters are more macho. She performs her original song "Keep on Moving."

Opening music: "Merchandise" by Fugazi, performed by Pierre de Gaillande with James Fletcher, drums. "Keep on Moving" by Dawn Landes, guitar and vocals. Other songs: "Sleigh Ride" by Bandana Splits. "Toutes Les Belles Inconues" and "For What it's Worth" by Dawn Landes. "Dark Eyes" by Will Oldham and Dawn Landes. "No Shade in the Shadow of The Cross (Live)" by Sufjan Stevens. End music: "Lazy Southern Song" by Melomane.



A very special double episode with Fa Ventilato and Roman Elsener, two Swiss-born, New York-based musicians who have been close friends since their youth and have very different approaches to life and music. We spoke about micropolitics, CD scratching, pillow drumming, hand grenades, the Swiss national anthem backwardt, and much much more. The Ramen and Pho Orchestra performed Roman's original songs "President Fast Food" and "Sailing Out to Sea" (including a seventeen-piece whistle orchestra) as well as a sprinkling of other original improvs and tidbits. Strap in for this one people. 

Sponsors: Exotic molds. Theme songs: "Merchandise" by Fugazi, performed by Pierre de Gaillande with James Fletcher, drums. "President Fast Food," "Tanzbar," "Tinkley," "Chimey," "Foodoofoofoo" and "Smellow" performed by the Ramen and Fo Orchestra; Fa Ventillato, drums, Roman Elsener, guitar and vocals,  Pierre de Gaillande, bass and keys. Other songs: "Yellow" and "With Biology of No Importance" by Halcyon, "Horse with Mixed Feelings" by Bingo Palace, "Sailing Out to Sea," "Goodwill and Optimism," "Rain Stones," "Beaches Apart" performed by Kerry Kennedy, and "Got You" by Roman Games. Prince Nine Inch Nails mashup by Fuckintosh.


The guest on this episode of PIERRE PRESSURE PODCAST is Paul Brill, an award-winning composer, musician, songwriter and producer. We spoke in his Brooklyn studio about the possible outcomes for the midterms, shredding your way to success, serving Bernie coffee, and a whole lot more. He performed a solo acoustic version of his song "Lay Down Your Weary Head." Background audio by Envelope, Malayalam, Peanut Butter, Milkweed and Paul Brill.


Sponsors: Man riding a spider, The 90s. Theme songs: "Merchandise" by Fugazi, performed by Pierre de Gaillande with James Fletcher, drums. "Up on the Sun" by Meat Puppets performed by Pierre de Gaillande with Chris Stromquist, drums. Ad music: "La Pression" performed by Dan Menke, drums, Emily James, keys, Gerald Menke, guitar, Pierre de Gaillande, bass.


Guest Mira Cook is a singer, pianist, composer, and dancer who performs regularly in NYC as a solo artist, building her songs live using vocal and instrumental loops. She also travels the world as a dancer and teacher with Battery Dance. We talked about her musical journey starting in Austin and how she fell into music by way of dance, how to stay positive in these confusing times, and upcoming album release. She performs an original tune called "Take the Easy Way Out" dedicated to her soon-to-be-born baby girl. 


Sponsors: La Revolution; Rubber Bands. Theme song: "Merchandise" by Fugazi, performed by Pierre de Gaillande, with James Fletcher, drums. Ad music: "La Pression" by Brothers Doobie. 



In this episode of PIERRE PRESSURE I tried to answer the question "Who is Jack Grace?" Is he the Country Ham, the Mariachi Cowboy, the lead singer of Van Hayride, John Pancaldo, or all of the above? We chatted about the many incarnations of Jack's career, as well as the final stages of the Monopoly game we are all living through, and we heard renditions of Jack's songs "Bad Wind Blowing" and "Being Poor."


Sponsors: #iaswell; Tungsten Filament. Theme song: "Merchandise" by Fugazi, performed by Pierre de Gaillande, with James Fletcher, drums. Ad music: "La Pression" by Brothers Doobie. 


Guest Dylan Nowik  is a singer/songwriter, multi instrumentalist, sound designer, and composer. We talked in the California Hill cottage about the world without humans, singing to statues in the forest, and the hopefulness of the rubber band concept. He performs two original songs; "Television Eyes" and "Mary."


Sponsors: A Donkey; Blankets. Theme song: "Merchandise" by Fugazi, performed by Pierre de Gaillande, with James Fletcher, drums. Ad music: "La Pression" by Brothers Doobie.